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NOAA disagrees:

http://www.research.noaa.gov/spotlite/archive/spot_gfdl.html
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Verum said:
Greenland and polar bears beg to differ. Mind giving us some examples of climate change taxes?

Greenland at one point grew wheat and people raised cattle. It was once warmer in the last several centuries than it is now. We know the world is getting warmer but there is no proof it is directly linked to human activity. Anyways i beleive we should make oil a worthless goo in the ground but honestly the government should not try to control but should try to improve options.
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There is strong evidence that green house gases insulate the earth and keep heat in. People are pumping obscene amounts of green house gases into the air. It seems to follow that humans are part of the cause of Earth's temperature rising somewhat.
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Obscene? We have not put nearly as much in the atmosphere as people think.

The problem with CO2 has nothing to do with global warming at all, it is the fact that the increased levels are absorbed in seawater, which creates carbonic acid which then eats away at the CaCO3, which is what mollusk shells, limestone, and coral is comprised of.
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CO2 is definitely one of the greenhouse gases contributing to global warming, and it's also definitely one of the substances we humans are putting into the environment at a shocking rate.
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Just thought I'd bring this up. Arctic ice caps are already floating in the ocean, so when they melt, the water they are displacing is still displacing the same amount of water... Therefore same sea level.
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Just thought I'd bring this up. Arctic ice caps are already floating in the ocean, so when they melt, the water they are displacing is still displacing the same amount of water... Therefore same sea level.


I have always wondered about this. I mean when you have ice cubes in a glass of water, and the ice melts, the cup does not overflow. Why does it apparently work differently on a larger scale?
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The ice on Antarctica is not floating.

Edit: Also, there are other concerns, such as the positive feedback loop caused by less of the sun's light being reflected from the surface (due to less surface ice) and interruption of oceanic currents caused by the influx of fresh water, slowing down currents and interfering with the temperature regulation that certain currents (e.g. the Gulf Stream) provide.
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Nor are the glaciers in places like Greenland, and I'd assume there're some in Russia as well.
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The ice on Antarctica is not floating.


I thought most of it was. Yeah there's land there but how much of the ice is on it?
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I understand the on-land ice problem, of which the largest is Greenland. But I just wanted to clarify the ice caps thing.
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Antarctica is a continent. It is completely covered with ice. In some places, the ice is as much as four miles thick. Antarctica:

antarctica.jpg

All of that is covered in ice. That is a great deal of ice.
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Yes, true.
But the difference between that and greenland is that the Antarctic ice caps are melting very slowly, whereas the ones on top of Greenland are cracking and fissuring, causing large amounts of water to flood into the ocean all at once.
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I was mostly replying to SocksFoHands.
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I was mostly replying to SocksFoHands.


Fair enough. Are those dots settlements? Who the hell has towns in the antarctic?
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They're research facilities. They are only staffed during summer, as the winters are much too intense. Normal human life is not possible there.
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I don't envy the poor bastards at Vostok.
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Amundsen-Scott is colder, I think. Also, I was wrong. Stations are inhabited during winter, but only by a small skeleton crew.

Anyway, back to climate change.
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Actually, I think secret armies being trained in Antarctic cities are a bigger threat. We need Antarctic transparency NOW! What're dem bastards hidin'?
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Actually, I think secret armies being trained in Antarctic cities are a bigger threat. We need Antarctic transparency NOW! What're dem bastards hidin'?

You have been targeted for elimination
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icu said:
Actually, I think secret armies being trained in Antarctic cities are a bigger threat. We need Antarctic transparency NOW! What're dem bastards hidin'?

You have been targeted for elimination

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Oh, my opinion. Partly our fault, partly a natural rise in temperature.
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No one really cares about global warming anymore. Earthquakes are all the rage now.
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Pfft, I was talking about earthquakes before they were cool.
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So I was reading this, it's about a scientist claiming they data to disprove global warming. Any thoughts?

Note: Here is his research?
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