My current belief is that life was intelligently created to evolve.

What makes you think that?

Creationism all the way! If you asked me one month ago it would have been evolution! Upon doing research and of course my growing relationship with my savior, my mind has been changed!

With the Lord all things are possible! Besides that, there isn't evidence for "uphill evolution" (bacteria eventually evolving into man)just "downhill evolution" (such as the differences in dogs).

There are many Christians who believe in evolution. Hyrodgen777 for example, who is a very devoted Christian.


I'm going to assume you mean Macroevolution and Microevolution. The only difference between these two concepts is time scale. Given long enough, the various breeds of dog will become entirely different species.

Yes thank you! I couldn't remember the term. That being said there is no evidence of a dog ever being anything but a dog. There is no fossil evidence of a transitional animal. There is that bird/dinosaur fossil...but I don't find it very convincing! I bet you know the name of what I am talking about ;) So yes, I am fine with microevolution. But for me time doesn't solve the problem of macroevoltion. There is NO evidence!
I am aware other Christians believe in evolution. I will soon read up on it. I don't think I'll be changing my mind though.

There are transitional fossils, just not of the scale you're looking for.

edit: http://www.teachthemscience.org/falseweaknesses#there-are-no-transitional-fossils-false

There isn't such a thing as "transitional" species. It's not like evolution means "First I'm a wolf, now I'm in between, now I'm a dog! Destination reached!"

It's like asking where the transitional number between 2.3 and 2.4 is. And when we dig up 2.35, where is number 2.36?

The evidence for evolution, both macro and micro, is really obvious. Here is more information than you could possibly need on the subject.

Fwip's link is superior to mine, so don't mind the one I gave lol

Not yet, but relative to other species, dogs are relatively new, so they're all still one species. But we have evidence of dogs evolving from wolves, so we know they did evolve. I'd recommend checking out these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpNeGuuuvTY&playnext=1&list=PL019F146277A3EDFD
He does a really good job of explaining evolution and how it works.

I'd like to end my post with this: Scientists have no attachment to the theory of evolution. If someone were to present evidence against it, scientists would have no trouble changing their mind. Science is about finding out more about our universe and how it works. Ignoring evidence doesn't do that. Ignoring evidence does, however, make it possible to continue believing in something that is demonstrably false.

To put it simply, the sum of all my life experiences. Any expansion on that explanation would take me many many days to say.

Ha, I empathize.

In a nutshell answer me honestly. Do you want me to beleive in evolution? All I want for you is to have a relationship with your creator who is full of grace and love. We are beings who constantly create! It is who we are...we are created in God's image. Give Jesus a chance and he will change your heart and give you a refreshing insight. It has taken me years to get where I am today. I even believe our universe is 1,000's of years old. If you told me I would think this even 2 months ago I would have laughed hysterically.

GOD BLESS!
Don't miss the boat! (Missed the Boat by Modest Mouse...awesome song).
Ok I'm ending my post now. Thanks for the intelligent conversation :)

It's not so much what you believe that I care about, but why you believe it. You've no reason to believe in Creationism other than blind faith. Blind faith is never good.

I've already given him a chance, and he failed.

You can't really speak for another person's reasons. Just because they can't explain them to you doesn't mean they don't have any. Some people have had experiences that are of deeply spiritual significance to them which simply can't be understood by people who haven't had a similar experience.

Hear, hear!

Why would god allow certain people to have experiences like that and not others?

What makes you think that God doesn't allow some people to have such experiences?

Atheists?

I don't consider it exclusively God's doing when one does or does not have some form of interaction with God. Relationships are mutual.

So you have to already believe in him to have an experience? What good does it to if you already believe?

And what of those who have had no contact with the concepts of Christianity at all?

This whole conversation is backwards. Christianity is not a set of propositional statements which one affirms. Christianity is a relationship with God and with the universe. Does this relationship require one to believe "God exists"? What is God? The concept of God is ill-defined unless you have experienced God. Doctrinal statements come after belief. What is belief? That would be a more direct question.

As long as a person has some sort of reasoning, personal or otherwise, I'm generally fairly okay with what they believe (this not including beliefs which actively harm others, like sexism or racism). Is there any reason you don't see evolution being compatible with being created by a god? As the Dark Hunter has mentioned, it is not so hard to imagine a god creating life through evolution by design.

The main problem is--How do you know the Judaeo-Christian God exists, and not, say Allah, or Shiva, or Thor, or Eris, or Ba'al? By the way that apologists try to make their claims unfalsifyible (e.g. implying that all evidence against their particular vision of a deity is a "test of faith", or that evidence is incomprehensible etc), there is no reason to support one deity over another. What if the deity, in a cruel twist, decides to damn all of those who believe in them? What if the deity merits reasonable disbelief rather than blind faith?

I don't, and it's irrelevant to my faith.